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	<title>Comments on: Cesar Millan causes dog bites?</title>
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		<title>By: KWolf</title>
		<link>http://thedish.sitstay.com/2009/05/12/cesar-milan-causes-dog-bites/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>KWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Joy:
I watch Cesar Milan&#039;s show and I&#039;ve never seen him
&quot;pulling their dogs around, jerking their necks, choking the dogs off the ground.&quot;

a.) People misinterpret things all the time. Especially when not having every piece of information. Have all these people at your dog park *personally* worked with Cesar Milan in their homes? If not, then they&#039;re just working off of their own perspective/perception/opinion on the limited amount of information they see *in the show.*&quot; The show does not include the full explanation or show all the time and work that went into the results. It can&#039;t; it has time limits. &quot;People error in trying to &#039;be&#039; Cesar based on the TV show.&quot; Do people realize these things? KWolf

b.) &quot;And the dogs still won’t won’t come to them.&quot; Dogs (and indeed, most living creatures with a self-preservation instinct or any love of self) need *incentive* to come to a person. And that incentive needs to be perceived by the dog as positive. Would *you* be willing to &quot;come to&quot; your friend/parent/spouse/et cetera if he or she had previously been &quot;pulling...[you]...around&quot; or &quot;jerking [your] neck&quot; or &quot;choking...[you] off the ground&quot;?

Again, I reiterate that these tactics are not things I have seen Cesar do.

c.) Darcie is right about alpha roles. But again, this is something people misinterpret. Many people think that the &quot;alpha dog&quot; is the biggest, toughest, strictest, whatever. But a true alpha - a true leader for a pack - is one who protects (that&#039;s where the strength - and *wisdom* - comes from), one who provides, and *one who sets and enforces rules* (in a loving/caring way). Alpha wolves may appear to fight to establish order and enforce rules but we&#039;re a different species and can and must achieve the same results in different ways.

[Dear KWolf, Exactly! This is exactly my point in writing about this show for all of these years. It&#039;s the perception of the show that it&#039;s a dog training show that gets so many people into trouble with their dogs. Cesar does a lot of pulling dogs around, &#039;alpha rolls&#039;, and in this last show hung a dog on the end of the leash. He admits it and often says it&#039;s necessary to gain control. I disagree with him on that. Thanks! Darcie]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Joy:<br />
I watch Cesar Milan&#8217;s show and I&#8217;ve never seen him<br />
&#8220;pulling their dogs around, jerking their necks, choking the dogs off the ground.&#8221;</p>
<p>a.) People misinterpret things all the time. Especially when not having every piece of information. Have all these people at your dog park *personally* worked with Cesar Milan in their homes? If not, then they&#8217;re just working off of their own perspective/perception/opinion on the limited amount of information they see *in the show.*&#8221; The show does not include the full explanation or show all the time and work that went into the results. It can&#8217;t; it has time limits. &#8220;People error in trying to &#8216;be&#8217; Cesar based on the TV show.&#8221; Do people realize these things? KWolf</p>
<p>b.) &#8220;And the dogs still won’t won’t come to them.&#8221; Dogs (and indeed, most living creatures with a self-preservation instinct or any love of self) need *incentive* to come to a person. And that incentive needs to be perceived by the dog as positive. Would *you* be willing to &#8220;come to&#8221; your friend/parent/spouse/et cetera if he or she had previously been &#8220;pulling&#8230;[you]&#8230;around&#8221; or &#8220;jerking [your] neck&#8221; or &#8220;choking&#8230;[you] off the ground&#8221;?</p>
<p>Again, I reiterate that these tactics are not things I have seen Cesar do.</p>
<p>c.) Darcie is right about alpha roles. But again, this is something people misinterpret. Many people think that the &#8220;alpha dog&#8221; is the biggest, toughest, strictest, whatever. But a true alpha &#8211; a true leader for a pack &#8211; is one who protects (that&#8217;s where the strength &#8211; and *wisdom* &#8211; comes from), one who provides, and *one who sets and enforces rules* (in a loving/caring way). Alpha wolves may appear to fight to establish order and enforce rules but we&#8217;re a different species and can and must achieve the same results in different ways.</p>
<p>[Dear KWolf, Exactly! This is exactly my point in writing about this show for all of these years. It's the perception of the show that it's a dog training show that gets so many people into trouble with their dogs. Cesar does a lot of pulling dogs around, 'alpha rolls', and in this last show hung a dog on the end of the leash. He admits it and often says it's necessary to gain control. I disagree with him on that. Thanks! Darcie]</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
		<link>http://thedish.sitstay.com/2009/05/12/cesar-milan-causes-dog-bites/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Darcie - great article.  I agree with what you have to say.  There may be many ways to obtain a result, so why not use a positive approach?  People error in trying to &quot;be&quot; Cesar based on the TV show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darcie &#8211; great article.  I agree with what you have to say.  There may be many ways to obtain a result, so why not use a positive approach?  People error in trying to &#8220;be&#8221; Cesar based on the TV show.</p>
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